Saturday, November 19, 2011

Redoing a second floor bathroom: question on the weight of Tub?

I'm going to be redoing my upstairs bathroom and moving the bathtub so it goes parallel to the joints. I'm planning on putting an additional subfloor down however should I worry about the weight of the tub? If so, any ideas of what to do?|||Take the height %26amp; spacing of the joists, for instance, 2" x 10" on 16" centers, then look it up in a span table. You might find a span table here:





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A Kohler Mendota cast iron tub weights in at 370 lbs + 45 gallons of water @ 8.35 lbs/gallon + a person (standing) gets a total weight of 945 lbs over 32" x 60" or 13.34 sq ft results in a load of 70.84 lbs /sq ft. (this may not be evenly distributed, but I don't know how to account for that).





Having said that (and hoping that the math is correct) I have installed %26amp; serviced many cast iron tubs and never come across any sort of support issue.|||most tubs are now made of poly resin and fiberglass lightweight and easy to move just make sure you have no water leaks when finished|||would not worry about the weight of the tub, i would worry when its full, of water, 1 gal weighs aprox 8 to 9 pounds,


if it held it before it should still hold it,|||The best time to address this is NOW. It may be able to carry the load of the tub and the water(8lbs per gallon), but wouldn't it be better to sister some lumber to the existing joists now? I would, even if the tub was going in the same location. Overkill?? Better than a tub falling through the floor.|||By moving the tub parallel to the floor joists could possibly be a problem. First there is a possibility that you may have to remove a joist to accommodate the tub drain which would weaken the floor and like another answer suggested the weight of a empty tub is probably not a concern, but with the tub filled with water you would have to be concerned. If I were you, I would consult with a structural engineer and have him or(her) advise me on how it should be done. It is better to be safe rather than sorry.|||With all due respect to you and others, and BTW I'm leaning toward one concept JAKE suggests. You state JOINTS, not JOISTS. Define JOINTS.





First of all the Joists/beams/rafters; whatever you want to call them; that support the second story; especially where the tub is located; should already be situated over a LOAD bearing support structure below. To move the tub off that support is a bad idea.





With no offense meant to one answer stating materials other than IRON/Enamled tubs; That might actually be better in the sense of a tub on any level but a Slab.





It would help you to know the load bearing capability of the per. sq. ft. of that second level floor.





As others suggest. Water weighs 8.5 lbs. per gallon. A usual tub might hold 50 gallons for a deep, nice bath. Adding another/additional sub floor is confusing, unless the purpose is for more than just supporting a tub. All you're doing is adding weight to the support structure holding up that area of the second level.





So, considering the weight of any tub; plus 425 lbs. of water; plus or minus; and the weight of the body in the tub; Say for arguments sake a total weight of 685 lbs. plus or minus; I'd be curious to know what parallel means to you; and I'd not strictly want to be sitting below; relaxing; watching my new LCD TV while anyone was bathing.





Just my 2 cents.





Steven Wolf

How to tile a bathroom wall around a tub?

We are redoing our bathroom. We own a mobile home and want to put tile around the tub as opposed to the fiberglass wall surrond. I just bought the hardi backer, but I am not sure what else I need to do. I know I need to put somehting around the seems on the backer, but what? Also how do I do the part where the tub and backer/tile meet. Do I have to do anything special where the backer ends at the wall?





Thanks for all the help.|||same as the last two people, however, I'd like to add something.


If you have a fiberglass surround now sitting above a tub you do not have the correct type of tub to tile over.


I'm sure there are guys out there who say it's fine to tile anyway but it's not.


There needs to be what's called a tile flange on the tub.


My plumbing supply dealer will install one for me so I would assume you can have this done with the tub in place. If this is not done, at some point your tile/tub joint will leak and/or you will have a mold issue that can only be fixed by pulling off the backer and re doing it the proper way.


I own a telephone consultation service with good rates. If you would like to still try this yourself you will need to be connected with a professional during the project. You are welcome to email me and I can give you the contact info if you need more help.|||For the joints of the backer board you put fiberglass mesh tape then skim with thin set. I also put a heavy mill plastic behind the board but over the top lip of the tub then cover it with the board. you will have to shim the wall studs to met the thickness of the tub edge so you have a flat surface to mount the board. If you do not lap the board over the tub edge it will crack in time. where the board meets the wall make sure the board and the drywall are flat and extend the tile 1 to inches on to the drywall, or again it will crack.|||Make a measure up one full tile from the top of the bathtub and mark the measurement. Use a level and pencil to mark a level line on that mark across the entire wall. Use a drill with a screwdriver attachment to secure the 1-by-2-inch board to the wall with the top edge of the board touching the level line.And use a notched trowel to spread thin-set mortar evenly onto the wall, ensuring that it is evenly notched. Spread thin-set mortar evenly onto the back of a tile, ensuring that the mortar is evenly notched. Press the tile firmly in place against the wall. Use the level to ensure that the tile is plumb.Then repeat step to for every additional tile. Place tile spacers between each tile to create even grout lines throughout your surface area. Use a wet tile saw to cut the tile to size before you set it in place. Allow the thin-set to cure completely. The curing time for the thin-set mortar will be listed on the packaging. Remove the 1-by-2-inch board from the wall. Set the bottom row of tiles.|||i could do like the guy above me and describe it, but if you don't know how to do it, it's still gonna come out horrible. hire a professional to do it.|||and this is why i watch HGTV

How do you remove a mirror from bathroom wall without breaking it?

Ok so we bought a house and in the bathroom, the previous owners had left a 5foot by 4 foot mirroir vanity. It is really nice and we want to keep it for something else. But the bad thing is, i think they glued it to the wall. Any tips how to get it off the bathroom wall without breaking it?


Thankyou so much!!!|||STOP RIGHT THERE ~!


do not do anything with such a huge piece of unsupported glass that is not laminated or tempered .


if this breaks it will slice you in half .been there done that .


first thing to do is to apply a generous amount of good quality duct tape . it will be easy to remove once you get the mirror free ( dont leave it on longer than 6 hours as it will leave a residue you will need to use paint thinner to get off .


Remove the mirror clips from the top , with a broad and very thin putty knife release the top by sliding the knife along . wear long gauntlet style leather gloves so if it breaks you dont get it in the wrist .


you will be able to slight flex the mirror , no more than a 1/4 inch so you can get longer and longer tools behind it to release the mirror mastic .make sure you have help and make sure your all prepared before you start . have all the necessary tools to clean up a broken mirror .


all parties in the room must wear safety goggles and not safety glasses , when glass breaks it scatters and can get in behind the glasses.


Please do note ; a new piece of mirror 5 x 4 is about a 100 bucks with pencil polished edges .


good luck and please be safe ~!|||Spray a solvent down the sides and from the top, even hosehold cleaners work ok. also use a blow dryer/heat gun to soften up edges, use a puddy knife to start and repeat the step over and over, dont pull on the glass, best is to try and rotate it when its un the wall left and right and so on.|||You need to support the Mirror so that when it drops it wont break. Use a LONG piece of Dental Floss behind the Mirror and be patient......Happy Flossing!

What do dreams about going to the bathroom mean?

I often dream that I'm trying to go to the bathroom and there are people around when I need to go. Like...the bathroom is in a public area with no stalls and all I want is privacy. Weird, I know. And a lot of the time the toilet is either too small or overflowing or something weird besides just a normal toilet. Really freaky. What does this mean?|||"and all I want is privacy"


You said it. I think you need a place you can be yourself and open up. Either other people's energy or the environment whether real or perceived is preventing you from doing this. It could also mean that you may not have anyone to really open up to when you need to.|||You need to get up and go pee. Seriously, I think it means you are shy about your body and your subconscious is trying to relieve the stress you feel.|||WAKE UP FAST!!


LOL|||i discovered as a small child that if i went to the bathroom in my dreams I would wet the bed. I made the connection very quickly and to this day (i am in my 40s) if i am in the bathroom in my dream I automatically wake up.


The privacy aspect of your dream could well be your subconcious trying to tell you to wake up so you dont "go" in bed.|||sometimes thats what i dream kinda like you said so i dunt kn srry|||Probably that you need to go to the bathroom.|||Your dream may be a common everyday thought or fear, but with an brilliant, sleepy imagination thrown in. Think about it..are you anxious about people knowing your inner thoughts, when you are trying to put on a different face to show the world? Every successful person I know has a little nagging fear that one day everyone will find out that they are just an ordinary person, no better than the rest. It sounds like that is what you are afraid of. I hope I am right because you can control it and move on once you understand what you are afraid of. This is the key to all worry. Good luck.|||Bathroom = privacy


toilet too small = low self esteem


overflowing = over confidence





It most likely means something about your social life. You want to keep everything inside. You do not like to share lots of stuff with people. Projecting small toilet could mean you have some issues in confidence. Perhaps sometimes you are down because you are respected as much. Overflowing could symbolize what you want in life. However, that is also too much in some extent because it is normal. In other words, your privacy is somehow being invaded. Not invaded by others, but by your low self esteem.





This dream basically tells me your personalities. You may be low in self esteem at the moment. You are losing confidence some times. Where there is a chance, you may be overdoing it|||this might be helpful


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Wednesday, November 16, 2011

What are the normal bathroom rules for a pre-kindergarten class?

My 5 year old son recently started a pre-kindergarten summer school and today he came home crying and saying that his teacher wouldnt allow him to go to the restroom to poop. He and another class member said that the teacher said no bathroom until the work is done. Consequently, my son had an accident in his underwear-twice. My son says someone-not his teacher-cleaned him up and changed his clothes. Am I wrong to assume that young children should be allowed to go poop whenever the urge hits them? I realize this may not sound like such a big problem to some, but this is my child and it upsets me that he was humiliated in this way. Please give me some feedback on this subject.|||Oh absolutely not. Report the teacher or change schools.





My son is in a pre-kindergarten summer program, and they would NEVER make them wait until their work is done to use the restroom. I don't think that's even borderline legal.





I don't know if it's the same in pre-k (if it's not, it ought to be) but in a home situation, using potty training or anything involved in it as a method of manipulation or discipline constitutes child abuse in at least a few states. I don't see anything different in that and what this teacher was doing.





Trust me, it does "sound like such a big problem" to me. I'd be pissed off beyond belief to find out a teacher did that at the school I send my kids to. Please don't send your child to this teacher again, and for the sake of the other kids in the class whose parents may not know what is going on, please report the teacher -- IMMEDIATELY.





Wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.





The teacher's detatched explanation that he didn't "effectively communicate" to her that he believed it was an emergency shows she neither actually cares about the kids in her class, but also that she has no real understanding of what four- and five-year-olds are like.





By asking your son "Is it an emergency", I'm guessing her tone was clearly telling your son "Back off". Plus, four- and five-year-olds don't have a really clear understanding of what is and what is not "an emergency", they can have less control over their bowels and bladders than a fully-functioning adult, and they can be easily manipulated into giving what they think is the "right answer". This woman seems to be thinking that pre-k students should be treated like junior high students. Her uncaring answer when you called her out on it makes that pointedly clear.





Please do not keep your son home to "work on his bathroom hygeine," as though ANY of this were his fault. He had to go to the bathroom. He told his teacher. That is all he should be required to do. Keep him home, by all means, but not to work with him on what he did wrong. He did nothing wrong here.|||Most early childhood programs are required to have bathrooms available either in the room or have staff that can take a child to the bathroom when they need/want to go. Your child nor any other should not be subjected to this kind of humiliation. They are forming their first experiences with "school" and each child should be afforded a positive, child-oriented experience. I would talk to whomever is in charge of the program to voice my displeasure and concern for the children's first experiences with "school" as a negative one. Don't make a big deal of it with your son, but let him know he should bug that teacher, who in my opinion has no business working with young children, when he has to go to the bathroom. Is there only one teacher in the room? If there are two, if one doesn't respond, tell him to go to the other teacher. I have a Master's in Early Childhood Special Education and have been a teacher, director and consultant with Early Childhood Education programs for 35+ years. I'm appalled that a "teacher" would do this to a child and then respond the way she did with you. Go with you "gut" feeling and protect your child! Good luck and I hope this helped a little.|||1.) take a pass


2.) come right back


3.) flush the toilet


4.) wash your hands


5.) dont forget the pass, bring it right back to class.|||good heavens! is this kindergarten run by the Gestapo?! just what kind of person denies a child use of the bathroom? she's (I assume) probably trying to get them not to use the bathroom so much, multiply your kid by 18, 19, or 20, but the outcome should tell her it's not working. Is there a school nurse to talk to? or school social worker? i think the teacher's expectations are too high, maybe she needs older students.|||The rules state that there should be at least one coed bathroom, one child at a time, with or without the help of the teacher, in which children, when they need, can go to the bathroom. You should probably complain to the school about this awful teacher; kids at that age havn't nescessarily learned control, and therefore, the teacher should allow them to go. This is horrible; don't let this continue, for your sake and for your child's sake.





I'm happy that you spoke with the teacher, but I'm worried that the teacher still hasn't come to an understanding about this situation. For the pre-kindergarten level, there are various summer programs and classes which offer fun and educational activities as well as make your child feel at home. I'm sure that you will be able to find a great place for your child this summer, and I hope that this horrible teacher doesn't get in the way of your child's childhood experiences. One's childhood is supposed to be full of fun, and I don't want this to get in the way of that.





Best wishes, and I hope this helped out!|||I have been a preschool teacher for 14 year and my advise is get your child out of that class . That is abuse.|||I'm really shocked at what you are saying. Not only children, but adults too, when they have to go they have to go.


You must have a word with this teacher and report this incident to the person in charge. Tell the person that you will consider placing your child in another place if this happens again.|||No, you are not wrong to think young children should be allowed to go to the bathroom when needed. Try talking to your son's teacher to fix the problem. Your son should be allowed to go to the bathroom when he needs to (as long as he does not abuse this right and goes to the bathroom to miss class.)





At the school I attend, we have a few bathroom rules: 1. Only go to the bathroom if you need to. 2. Do not run or play in the bathroom. And there are some more, too.|||You have every right to be upset. You should speak to his teacher. If the issue can't be resolved that way, you should file a complaint with the principal. It's one thing if your son was abusing the privilege and getting up to go to the bathroom every few minutes, and it's another if a teacher causes your son to defecate on himself.|||Take a pass and don't make a mess. That is very unreasonable that he/she did that to your son and the other child.|||Preschool children should be allowed to use the bathroom any time they need to. Take your child out of the program, today! Speak to the principal and be absolutely clear about how unhappy you are. Go to a school board member. In other words, cause lots of trouble , The teacher should not be working with young children, Actually, the teacher should not be working with kids at all! A good pre-k shouldn't be about "work" that has to be finished. Reassure your child that what happened was not his fault. While you are at it find out what the policy will be in his kindergarten classroom.|||I think they should be allowed to I mean they are 4 and5 they do not know how to hold it in I mean come on. I think they should!

How do I temporarily cover up my bathroom floor?

I'm getting ready to move into a new house, but the main bathroom floor is some weird-looking fake tile pattern. I'd like to cover it up with more than just a small bathroom rug, and I don't know the exact dimensions off the top of my head...





Since I'm only renting the place, setting actual tile is out of the question. I need to use something that can be taken off without any serious damage. So if you can think of anything that doesn't involve me losing my deposit...answer away!|||Carpet tiles are an option, however, carpeting in a bathroom is really not a good idea -- mold, mildew, smells -- all that kind of stuff.





You can get some mighty fine looking linoleum remnants that can be cut and shaped for your bathroom. It doesn't have to be a perfect fit...just try and keep some kind of form (i.e., the same width border all around). You don't need to glue the linoleum down, just run a heater or hair dryer for a while until it becomes flexible and straightens out. If you feel more comfortable "attaching" it to the floor, use a few strips of double-sided sticky tape.





Another option is sticky floor tiles adhered to a piece of canvas fabric.





And, still another option is simply canvas fabric (you won't run into the same problems as carpeting) that can be decorated with paint -- a motif, stencils, etc. Seal the canvas with several coats of flooring-grade water-based polyurethane if desired (will help it wear better).





You can also paint the back of a linoleum remnant with a color and design of your choice and seal with the same water-based finish. I have several of these linoleum "area rungs" in my kitchen on which I did a faux marbling, and they look really, really nice.





HGTV.com also provides a wealth of information, and they have a forum where you can ask this question and get even more responses and good ideas.|||There is a new type of vinyl that has a fiberglass core than can be cut tight to the walls and loose laid on the floor. A couple types sold here in California are Armstrong Cushion Step and Naturcore - I think there's another manufacturer called Tarkett.


Check with your local flooring store for details on product and how to use in your situation.





(I work in a flooring store)|||There are self-assembling hard-wood floors that you can install without having to glue them to the floor. They snap together. The only thing is, you would have to cut it to fit the dimensions of the room... It's pretty easy though and it doesn't require destruction of anything that is already there...|||Im not too sure without seeing your setup, but maybe you could use some cheap snap together laminate like they sell at ikea and just lay it onto of what you already have.|||in my last apartment i asked permission from the landlord to put some inexpensive but attractive self adhesive tile down. it only cost me $60 and the landlord actually took a chunk off that months rent because it improved the look of the bathroom. it never hurts to ask. i am not sure as to a temporary solution that would be easy to remove, if i find any info, i will post it here for you.|||Go to the flor website...I just recently put some down and I love it. you buy it by the carpet floor tiles and you can pick it up and put it down easily. They stick to each other, not the floor underneath so no damage.


www.flor.com|||Get carpet pieces and cover it up that way . they have them where they put together like a puzzle .|||self adhesive floor tiles.

How to finance a bathroom remodel when all equity is lost out of home?

We bough our home in 2007, put 20% down and now with the market plummeting, we owe more in our house than what it's worth. We make our payments fine, just have no equity to fix a major bathroom problem.|||Save up till you have the cash. Homes were never meant to be ATMs.